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February 9th, 2006


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12:34 pm - Esus=Jesus=Caesar=WTFOMGLOL!!!1111!
So, apparently Jesus was actually Julius Caesar, Esus is Jesus is Caesar, the Jesus myth has nothing to do with the Jews (or even the Middle East) and I'm the insane one.

(Yes, I am fully aware that this entry seems to be an amusing flip-flop from my previous entry. Maybe I meant it that way? I dunno. The implication that I think about anything is perhaps thinking too much on my thinking.)

Over the past three weeks or more, I've been engaged in a discussion (rather, a series of discussions) about how Esus is related to Jesus. It is, on the one hand, entertaining. And honestly, I'm willing to look at it objectively. But I admit that I think it's bunk right now. But I'm hoping that I'm at least looking at each piece carefully before holding up the big "REJECTED" sign.

The central argument comes from Francesco Carotta's new book, Jesus Was Caesar: On the Julian Origin of Christianity: An Investigative Report. I've had some very light dealings back and forth with Carotta himself (who runs a forum on his website), though they haven't been very in depth. He did, though, personally moderate me and reject a posting for suggesting that the theory that Jesus was of European origin, not of Semitic origin, worried me and made me afraid that the theory was potentially anti-Semitic. I feel special.

The book is, at present, too expensive for me to purchase, but I understand that it's being used by at least one history professor as an example of "bad" history, which amuses me a lot. If you ever feel like getting me an expensive gag gift, though, that's the thing to get.

Anyway, the point of the whole thing is that I have taken the time to re-think and re-work some of the information I have on Esus and Tarvos Trigaranus. It's also given me the kick to put up a page responding to some of the arguments I've received (over and over again, I might add) about Jesus being Esus and possibly Caesar. And now I've got the start of a page on the Nautes Pillar up, and I'll have more on that page in the near future.

Yeah, just what I needed: a new project in the middle of my current heavy workload. But this is one that is very valid to me. And it's definitely time that I started looking again at those Esus pages on my website. They hadn't been updated in nearly two years when I looked at them last, and one of the discussions I had showed me that I didn't really agree with everything. So things are expanded, and on their way toward becoming more expanded. It feels good to be back to this line of discussion and thought again. I missed it.
Current Mood: amusedamused
Current Music: "Up On the Housetop", -JB

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From:ariansdreams
Date:February 9th, 2006 06:31 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm. I have nothing. Sorry. Just wanted to comment and say, I, also, am amused.
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 9th, 2006 06:33 pm (UTC)
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Well, so long as the amusement factor remains high, well, I think that we're ahead in the game :)

Nice icon.
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From:unnamed525
Date:February 9th, 2006 08:58 pm (UTC)
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Obviously, you're just refusing to see the TRUTH inherent in his research. The only reason you're rejecting it is your dogmatic alleigiance to mainstream academic work.

For shame, sir! For shame!
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 9th, 2006 11:42 pm (UTC)
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Shame? I think I'm proud of it.
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From:unnamed525
Date:February 10th, 2006 03:37 am (UTC)
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I was just being silly.
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 14th, 2006 01:28 pm (UTC)
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I know. No worries.
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From:singingwren
Date:February 9th, 2006 09:24 pm (UTC)
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All these people are on crack. Their arguments may SOUND convincing on the surface, yes, but what about the most vital key to the puzzle? Foxglove and the Boy-Onna-Fish!!! They can't just be FORGOTTEN like that. If you want to tell me Foxglove was somehow equivalent with Cleopatra or something, you would sure be hard-pressed to bend your etymology, just as I would meet you with hard skepticism if you tried to convince me that the Boy-Onna-Fish represents, say, Peter or Paul. That means that basically any argument against Esus being JUST Esus is uncalled for, unfounded, and unwelcome.

I'm just glad that few people h ave realized Cernunnos is actually Satan...
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 10th, 2006 12:27 am (UTC)
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Oh, such words of amazing insight, these are!
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From:singingwren
Date:February 10th, 2006 01:43 am (UTC)
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Why thank you!
I was thinking of charging people to hear them then carrying a portable pulpit and spreading the Word for a nominal fee. You're welcome to come Enlighten (tm) people with me. :D
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 10th, 2006 01:46 am (UTC)
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Raincheck. I have important places to go right now. Very, very important.
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From:nontacitare
Date:February 9th, 2006 10:25 pm (UTC)
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Jesus and Julius Ceasar were supposedly the same person? Wow. (Although it does give me a good idea for April 1).

But, but...how can you deny the truth of the Lincoln/Kennedy connection? They're obviously the same person. Everyone knows that.
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 10th, 2006 12:31 am (UTC)
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I admit, I didn't believe that they were serious to start with, either. I thought it was a really, really elaborate joke. But damn: they're serious.

As to Lincoln/Kennedy: Oh, it's quite obvious. In fact, it's obvious that Kennedy was actually playing out a mythic drama, set on the mythical figure of Lincoln. It's the same mechanism that caused Moctezuma to abdicate when Quetzalcoatl returned, in the guise of Cortez.
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From:romandruid
Date:February 10th, 2006 12:17 am (UTC)

*boom*

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I'm afraid you've finally made my head explode. Congratulations on being the first to actually accomplish this feat of magnificent confusion -- thousands have tried, but you're the only one to have succeeded.

And now for some bubbles o o o o o o o o o o o
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 10th, 2006 12:33 am (UTC)

Re: *boom*

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You should try arguing with these folks. It's like telling a brick that thinks it's a giraffe that it's actually just a brick.

Nothing gets through to it, it just sits there and stares back at you, and then says, "No, I'm a giraffe."

I mean, Wow.
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From:creature_tamer
Date:February 10th, 2006 02:56 am (UTC)
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On the whole Esus vs. Jesus thing... every time I see that, I think of that scene from Fellowship 911 where they talk about people being confused by the name "Sauron" vs. "Saruman." With the little visual aid. :)
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From:chronarchy
Date:February 14th, 2006 01:27 pm (UTC)
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Haha. I still say that movie is a heck of a lot more funny if you've seen the original it parodies. :)

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