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August 5th, 2006


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12:57 pm
I've been playing with an idea that sleepingwolf gave me: Visual Liturgy.

It's a program (with several sister programs) developed by the Anglican Communion for liturgical work. Basically, you start with the basic Order of Services, and then you kinda pick your sermons, bible readings, prayers, hymns. . . everything.

I imagine that extensive use of such a program, even though the number of options are huge probably have a seriously detremental affect on the individual creativity of Anglican priests (there's suddenly no need to write your own, or spend a lot of time on liturgy), but I see that there's a use for it within the Pagan community. So I'm exploring options to make my own version.

It's a bit more complicated, though, when you have . . . essentially an infinite number of deities to find prayers for. :)

On Thrusday, the Three Cranes site went down. Hard. There was a real messup with my credit card, where for some reason my billing address was listed as "69 W. Weber Rd., Columbus, AL". Everything got cleared up, though, and the site no longer points to "find information on jib cranes, crane rental, construction cranes, grove cranes." Thank the gods. :)

On Thursday night, I found myself wide-awake when I got fully prepared for bed, so I got up and started in on the Liturgist Guild Study Program. There are only four classes I'd have to do (in addition to the GSP which I just finished, but haven't heard back on yet), and two of them (apparently?) count toward the second circle of the Clergy Training Program, so I figured, "Eh, what the hell?"

I wrote up everything for Liturgy Practicum 1: Domestic Cult Practice in ADF that didn't require the 4-month wait that night, and got a start on Liturgical Writing 1. The next morning (yesterday), I wrote hekatatia and asked to enroll in the LGSP.

Then, at lunch, while looking through the requirements for the program (again), I notcied that there's a requirement in the "bardic" portion of the program that requires the writing of two poems, at which point I realized that we need another voice to the Grove poem, which we update every year for Autumnal Equinox.

And I also thought about something I could do for a praise offering that ritual.

I'm moving back to seeking excellence in personal ritual, something that I haven't really thought of in a while. Not since Yule 2004, at least, when I wrote a solitary Yule rite because I had to miss Saturnalia. I have mentioned that I really want to re-do my Dedicant Program, too. I've told a lot of people who wanted to "test out" of the DP and various requirements that everyone has something to learn from going "back to basics", and I've always believed it.

Now, it's time to prove it.

Last night, I had a dream that tesinth and I were wandering through the Generations Religious Supply Store, collecting items for our own religious organization. In my dream, they had really great items for sheep sacrifice (like, big troughs to move the blood to a drain, a little table for examining the liver, and such like). If they have those in reality, then they must have a back room somewhere, because I didn't see any when I was there. . .

Today, I need to give perlgirlju a call and let her know when I'm free so that we can watch bad vampire movies.

But first, a shower is absolutely necessary.
Current Location: Southeast of Disorder
Current Mood: amusedamused
Current Music: "Wonder Why We Ever Go Home", -JB

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From:zylch
Date:August 5th, 2006 10:54 pm (UTC)
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So far as I know, Anglican priests don't spend a whole lot of time writing liturgy anyway. Part of the point of the Anglican Cycle is a community of form and words; I can (and have) walked into a service in Italy that was essentially the same as a service in Kansas (except for being bilingual).

From my experience in the Episcopal church, there's not a lot of need for an Anglican priest to be creative about anything other then the sermon; the whole order of service is very plug-and-play. The lectionary in the Book of Common Prayer indicates the readings on a three year rotation and the hymns tend to be limited to no more than one "new" (ie, not already known by most of the congregation) hymn per month. The priest generally chooses which of the three readings s/he's going to preach on and writes the sermon, but other than that you just pick Liturgy of the Word I or II, insert the traditional or contemporary wording of the collect associated with that day, insert the readings associated with that day, then pick Holy Eucharist Rite I or II, and again insert either the contemporary or traditional wording of the rite. Minor changes apply for seasons like Lent and Advent, but again everything you need to know is provided in the book. This program just seems to be a timesaving version of the BCP which allows you to create and print programs and orders of service more easily.
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From:heimskringla
Date:August 6th, 2006 03:10 am (UTC)
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The whole point to liturgy, from the Christian perspective, is that there's no need to constantly tinker. The liturgy of the Church has a set form with some accepted variations. The readings change every week, the sermon and the hymns too, but not much else. The liturgy evolved as an expression of the community, a product of a whole and not a part of a whole, so for there to be a lot of creativity on the priest's part runs counter to the communal purpose and nature of the liturgy.

The priest acts in locus Christi during the liturgy, not as himself. A priest is free to get creative with the homily and the music, but most everything else is fairly fixed.

VL, and software like it for other denominations, just alleviates the need for lots of book and paper shuffling. The readings are going to be John 5:10-25 and I Timothy 6:6 if it's day X of year Y no matter what, unless it happens to be the feast of Z, in which case the readings for Z take precedence over XY.

As a member of ADF, and a priest for your people whether you acknowledge it or not, you've a lot more freedom to innovate liturgically than the majority of Christian priests.

That was probably a bit ranty.

I think it would be neat to see an application in the vein of VL for ADF, and you've got a larger set of literature and custom to draw from than the Anglicans. I'd suggest writing a basic application which accepted hearth culture specific modules; the modules could be tagged with XML to make them a little easier for the non-geek to write and plug in to the application.
From:perlgirlju
Date:August 6th, 2006 04:53 am (UTC)
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Thank you very much for a good 'bad' vampire movie and most importantly for the cookies and conversation. I had a great time! :)
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From:chronarchy
Date:August 6th, 2006 01:59 pm (UTC)
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Hehe. It was fun. :)

And those cookies, well, they were just calling your name.

"Judi!" they called. "Take us home to Judi!"

So, really, I was just following the voices.
From:perlgirlju
Date:August 6th, 2006 04:02 pm (UTC)
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I think, in this case, I have to heartily endorse those voices.
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From:ariansdreams
Date:August 6th, 2006 07:29 pm (UTC)
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Going to Mass was probably my favorite thing about being Catholic. I also cantored (sang and people responded to what I sang) for a long time as well, so I think I knew the liturgy pretty well (and in Latin, as that happened every Easter and sometimes Xmas Eve).

I liked the fact that there were set responses to the things the priest said. It kind of let me get into the "church mood" as it were. The only time you really had to think was during the homily, but otherwise it was mostly singing. I always felt very peaceful there. Not quite the ...fire of joy, I suppose...that I feel when I worship my Gods now, but it was not an unpleasant feeling, anyway.

Also a lot of Catholic music in the liturgy is very sombre and composed in minor chords. That is religious music to me, and always will be. Especially the Kyrie.

I think what I liked best about the Catholic mass is that I knew what came next, always. I knew what to respond to the priest. I knew that the Gloria came after the Kyrie, and I knew every word of the Nicene Creed. I liked holding hands with my family when we said the Lord's Prayer before taking communion. I think that I liked the sense of belonging there. Because everyone else there knew all of those things as well. When to sit, stand, and kneel, etc.

I really like ADF's "basic" order of ritual. I think it is effective. I really do need to write one that I use the basics of *every* time. So far I have been re-working the rituals of others, since I really do not feel as though I know what I am doing. Actually...come to think of it, I might do a full one every week, so that I can get that feeling of knowing what I am doing back again! Ha.

It has been a little frustrating, but I know that the results will be worth it.

Er. Sorry for rambling. Nice post, btw...it really got me thinking. :)


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