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September 10th, 2008


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06:35 pm - Ooh, a reason to check out a book written in German. . .
Apparently, there is a Roman military belt that is fitted with gold plates depicting the deeds of Hercules, found in a Germanic cemetery at Kemnitz. And I'm pretty sure there's a picture.

I think I can find it in the following source:

Geisler, H., 1973: Ein Adelsgrab auf dem germanischen Urnengräbergeld bei Kemnitz, Kr. Potsdam-Land, Zeitschrift für Archäologie 7, 279-298.
So, of course, I've ordered it from the library.

I'm really curious to see how it looks, to find out how it was done. I certainly hope that there are pictures of this thing.

Yeah, these are the kind of things that excite me.
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From:drjon
Date:September 10th, 2008 11:13 pm (UTC)
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Ah yes, the Roman Hercules Belt. I've read about it before... if you get a picture, I'm sure I'm not the only person who'd love to see it...
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 10th, 2008 11:25 pm (UTC)
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Don't worry, if I find it, I'll certainly scan it!
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From:alvita_felis
Date:September 11th, 2008 10:14 am (UTC)
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Did you consider that such stylish belt could make you look even more charismatic? I read that hymn in the last Oak Leaves, haha, twas brilliant.
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 12:14 pm (UTC)
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It was pretty good. It's even better when she calls me up on stage to read it to me in front of everyone at a festival. I play along, and it's fun ;)
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:05 pm (UTC)
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Hot Roman warriors in skirts - yummy :)
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:31 pm (UTC)
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Very, very short skirts. I know: I own a tunic just like that. . .

Alas, no lorica segmentatae, though.
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)
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Bummer, cuz chronarchy in the tunic and armour would be VERY yummy ;)

Edited at 2008-09-11 04:36 pm (UTC)
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:49 pm (UTC)
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I wore the tunic several years ago when I took my patron oath for ADF. . . It's an oath no longer required by ADF, where I made an oath to my specific patrons individually the night of my Dedicant Oath (or was it the night before? I think it was the night before. . . off to check!).
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:50 pm (UTC)
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Pictures?
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)
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There are none. I was the only person at the Patronage Rite, so there was no one to see it and take photos.

Probably for the best, all told :)

However, I did write about the patronage rite. . .
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC)
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Bummer again!

Is it posted somewhere? I would like to read it if it available...
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC)
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Oh, never mind - I see there you have a link - can't tell purple from black w/out my glasses on...
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 05:05 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I'm not overly pleased with the linking format in LJ, generally. I should really change that.
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From:mischevousblend
Date:September 11th, 2008 05:08 pm (UTC)
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Sounds like it was a wonderful experience. It Reminds me of when I dedicated myself to a relationship with Venus. As I think of her now, I feel her presence. I don't recall that I actually specifically dedicated myself to her as her daughter - but I think that is the best way to describe our relationship.

Edited at 2008-09-11 05:09 pm (UTC)
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From:joyful_storm
Date:September 11th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)

Been meaning to ask. . .

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. . . are you aware of the existence of a Gallo-Roman column in the Dijon Archaeological Museum that depicts (among others) Esus-Mars?
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 11th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)

Re: Been meaning to ask. . .

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No, but I'm starting the look now. Do you have any more information, or perhaps remember where you heard about it?
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From:joyful_storm
Date:September 12th, 2008 12:32 am (UTC)

Re: Been meaning to ask. . .

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Seeing it at the museum was the first I'd heard of it, and I tried to take pretty thorough pictures, including the plaque with the description (I had the feeling you might want them). ;)

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From:chronarchy
Date:September 12th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)

Re: Been meaning to ask. . .

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I certainly do. Can you e-mail them to me? dangler dot 8 (at) osu dot edu?
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From:joyful_storm
Date:September 12th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)

Re: Been meaning to ask. . .

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My home computer is in bits on the floor just this moment, but I'll try to get it together and send you pics before Monday. :)
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From:chronarchy
Date:September 12th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)

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I admit to excitement. Almost uncontainable excitement.

I picked up a copy of Dijon's Musée Archéologique's Sculptures Gallo-Romaines Mythologiques et Religieuses today when I was stumbling through the OSU Fine Arts library today on an entirely unrelated research project.

If you remember anything about it that might help me locate it (if it's in the book), I'd be grateful :) Maybe where it was found, or what collection it was in?
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From:joyful_storm
Date:September 12th, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)

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Gah, they did not have that book in the museum shop, so I just don't know.

Looking at the collections they have listed on the web site I don't see an obvious choice. It was in the last room on the Celtic floor, past the sections on the Sources of the Seine and the Goddess Sequana. It was surrounded by miscellaneous funerary stelae and the like (not from any particular site). Honestly, it felt rather out-of-place, like they didn't have anywhere else it really fit.

If more description might help narrow the options in your book, I'd say it was maybe 14' tall and 3' across, divided in two vertical block sections. Two sides had Roman gods - Jupiter for sure, and I believe Mercury. The other two had Gallo-Roman syncretized gods - Esus-Mars and Sucellus-Vulcan.
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From:joyful_storm
Date:September 15th, 2008 05:33 am (UTC)

Re: Been meaning to ask. . .

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Computer now together, camera battery dead. . . will do ASAP.

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