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August 13th, 2009


11:44 am - Wow: Moving right along, it seems
I look at where I am today in my CTP work and where I was just last week: I'm four questions away from completing CTP2.

I'm still struggling with the king/virgin dynamic (IE Studies 2) and the "why are deities jerks" question (IE Myth 2). I'm pending a book from the library by Maslach and Leiter about burnout (it seems to have been lost in the move from the Ackerman Stacks to the Thompson Stacks) to finish two questions in Leadership Development 1.

It is entirely possible that I could complete all four courses before Summerland, or even (if I get my book) before the "new" deadline I set for the first of them: Saturday.

CTP 2 is really the bear of the circles of study within our Training Program. It's heavy on academics and light on experience in some courses, and heavy on experience and light on academics in others. No matter who you are, you're going to hit a roadblock now and again. Being one of the first people to complete some of these courses made it worse, since [info]druidkirk and I turned out to be guinea pigs for some pretty atrocious wording errors, minimum word counts, and repetitive questions.

Still overcoming those (annoyingly self-imposed, since I wrote most of them) obstacles has been highly educational.

Around 10:30 PM last night, I completed Ethics 1, ten questions I must admit I don't often ask myself. It was less research intensive than I expected, and more discussive of my personal thoughts and feelings. I learned a lot about myself in the process of answering those questions, too. Putting the Ethics 1 answers up is sort of like putting a naked picture of yourself up on the 'net, though: you wonder first if it's a good idea, and second who would even want to look at it?

I still have some outstanding submissions that were submitted but never reviewed, which isn't a big deal to me (though it appears that they're approaching a year of "just sitting"). I know that my work is good, and it's not like a "stamp of approval" has ever had an affect on my spirituality. Still, I suspect that at Summerland, I'll need to shove paper copies in front of the Clergy Council Preceptor and get them reviewed.

I cannot help but think though, about how impossible completion looked just two weeks ago, and how entirely possible it looks now. In fact, it looks like a foregone conclusion that I'll be finished by Summerland. It astounds me how much the simple action of re-setting my goal dates appears to have kicked me in the ass and gotten me moving.

I'm actually very eager to start on CTP3. Look for an update when I'm done with CTP 2 as to what my plan will be for the Third and Final Circle of the ADF Clergy training Program.
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Current Mood: [mood icon] excited
Current Music: "Summerzcool", -JB

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February 12th, 2009


09:33 am - Magical Girdles and Herculean Labours
Some may recall that I located a reference to a Roman military belt that is fitted with gold plates depicting the deeds of Hercules in a German text. I have had a thing for the Twelve Labours since I found statutes of eight of them at the Hofburg Imperial Palace in Vienna in 2005.

Well, I've located the plates and, indeed, they're clearly Hercules (as a matter of note, I prefer the name "Heracles," but this is a Roman belt, after all. . .).

Roman Hercules Belt


Clearly depicted are Cerberus (who I prefer to call "Spot"), the Stag, and the Girdle. I don't believe there's enough of the lower-left piece to figure out which one it might be, though since the guy holding the club doesn't appear to be wearing a lion skin, perhaps it's the Nemean Lion (a Labour that would make sense on a soldier's belt).

I can just imagine the feeling of power this soldier must have felt, wearing this belt into battle. It was like he was enacting the mythic drama of Hercules, and I suspect that the belt also reminded him that the duty of being a soldier was not without labour and work, as well, but that even the most basic task could be heroic, if done by the right person. It's a fabulous piece, and I wish more if it were still intact.

I love my library system here at OSU.

Pics from Vienna behind the cut )
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Current Mood: awake
Current Music: "Rancho Deluxe", -JB

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October 6th, 2008


02:02 pm - The North Wind licks my face
There are a lot of things that are a long way off, really, for me. Last night, in ritual with my Grove, I said that what I planted early this year isn't ready for harvest yet, and I was hoping it would be ripe by Samhain.

Today, it looks like it'll be sometime after Samhain (possibly mid-November), if at all.

I'm fortunate, though, that I went to a business meeting last Thursday: I can often forget how bad things are when I'm with my Grove. And on Friday night, I joined a number of ADF's Priests at a Clergy Retreat for the weekend, and I managed to forget most of my problems by the start of our sessions on early Saturday morning.

Once forgotten, when you re-remember your problems, they always seem so much less important. . . Some distance is good to show you that.

A couple of people saw my post on Saturday night, posted just after a very powerful ritual (with an awesomely inspired gate-opening by [info]druidkirk) and a wonderful trip to an inner locale that our Clergy share. On Sunday night, I spent the evening with my Grove, and watched something deeply magical happen when we opened the Ancestor Box. The weekend has given me the spiritual refreshment to regain my patience, to work it out, and to hold on until the ends finally do meet.

There's a bright fire at the end of this tunnel. It's just a lot longer than I thought it would be, and I'm several weeks further behind than I expected to be at this point. As far apart as those "ends" that need to meet seem to be, and as uncertain that I really am that they will come together before I end up fraying myself, I'm not panicked. If Gilgamesh could do it, then by the gods, so can I.
Just then, at the end of the ninth league, just once
the rough tongue of the North Wind licked at his face.
I have felt the North Wind this weekend. There is hope before me.

Now, let's see what we can do about kicking some ass today, shall we?
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Current Mood: working
Current Music: "Boat Drinks", -JB

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August 29th, 2008


10:10 am - Discordians on ID, the lost Principia, and the JFK assasination!
Years before Creationism became Intelligent Design and began to fill the heads of our children with unscientific rot that masqueraded as science, Discordians were fighting the good fight against ID with their own myths and stories.

There is a copy of the Principia Discordia in the JFK Collection from the HSCA. It was placed there because one of the founders of Discordianism, Thornley, was investigated as part of the conspiracy to kill JFK (by virtue of having served with Oswald and writing two books on him. . . one of those books being written before the assassination).

It's an old edition, one that contains the myth that was supposed to precede Starbuck's Pebbles in the Principia, but was somehow left out. This edition is something like the Dead Sea Scrolls or the Nag Hammadi library of Discordianism, and I'll bet that very few of you even knew it existed. Honestly, almost no Discordians had ever seen these writings until the HSCA files were declassified in 1992, and it took a few years beyond that for Rev. [info]drjon to dig it out.

Even the title is different. Discordians, of course, know their holy book as "The Principia Discordia: Or, How I Found the Goddess and What I Did To Her When I Found Her". The title of this version of the Principia is, "The Principia Discordia: Or, How the West Was Lost."

For those interested, though, please take a few minutes to peruse the complete scan (minus two pages that simply do not exist) of this original~ish Principia Discordia.

And, because we *all* need to read the original myth that went along with Starbuck's Pebbles that debunks ID in a religious context. . . read on! )
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Current Mood: [mood icon] satisfied
Current Music: "Take Another Road", -JB

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August 15th, 2008


11:27 am - Making a Special Triptych
Last night, I spent a couple of hours making something that I'd like to share with everyone: a triptych.

Now, because this is me, you know this is not going to be just any triptych. No, I created a triptych based on one of my favourite myths, a sort of little portable Pagan shrine or altarpiece.

My triptych is the story of The Original Snub.


For more, including a picture detailing the items on the panels, read on. . . )

Why, yes: this little triptych will be for auction at Summerland next Saturday.

Not preregistered for Summerland? Get Pre-Registered! Today is the last day to pre-register!

Current Location: Southeast of Disorder
Current Mood: [mood icon] amused
Current Music: "Smart Woman (In a Real Short Skirt)", -JB

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October 25th, 2007


08:22 am - A Hittite Myth
When the Storm God and the Serpent came to blows in the city of Kishkillushsha, the Serpent defeated the Storm God, and the Storm God called out to all the gods: "Come to my aid."

The goddess Inara prepared a festival. She arranged all grandly: a vat of wine and vats of two other intoxicants. She filled the three vats to overflowing.

Now Inara went to the city of Zigaratta and she encountered a man, Hupashiya. Inara said: "Look, Hupashiya, I say such and such and such—you must hold yourself apart for me." Then Hupashiya said to Inara, "Hail! I will sleep with you. I will come to you. I will do as you desire." And he slept with her.

Inara led Hupashiya away and hid him. Inara adorned herself, and she beckoned the Serpent out of its cave. "Look, I am celebrating a festival. Come for the food and drink."

The Serpent came up with its children, and they ate and drank. They drank all the vats and became drunk. Then they could no longer go down into the cave.

Hupashiya came and bound the Serpent with a rope. The Storm God came and killed the Serpent there, and the gods were beside him.

     -(KBo III 7 and KUB XVII 5)

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July 23rd, 2007


10:42 am - Three Cranes, Esus, and Tarvos
I've been working on further developing my connection with our Grove's namesake, Trigaranus (aka "Three Cranes", who we usually refer to in the singular as "Garanus" or "Crane"), within my own mind. If these 6th night rituals work out for the Grove, we'll talk about developing this a tad further as a Grove, too.

I started thinking about what names I could refer to each of the cranes as, and I started thinking about the Grove and what the Grove's strongest traits are.

I admit, my conception of Trigaranus is inextricably tied to my conception of the Grove.

As I was thinking about the Grove, though, I began to think about us in terms of the Nine Virtues of ADF, and I started thinking, "Which three virtues do we most exhibit?"

ADF's Nine Virtues are: Wisdom, Piety, Vision, Integrity, Perseverance, Courage, Moderation, Hospitality, and Fertility

Recent events were certainly on my mind, and I began to think about how our Grove is perceived inside and out. The virtue that stuck out most in my mind was Hospitality: we've seen a surge in growth recently, and we're becoming fairly well-known for providing hospitality (the joke has become that we are "Three Cranes Grove Home for Wayward Druids", which is great in our general opinion).

I thought about other virtues, and Integrity was the next to come to mind: not only in our words and actions, but relating back to the previous point of hospitality. We have a way of "integrating" folks into the whole here, and I'd like to see that continue and grow.

Vision was another obvious choice: I speak constantly about the Crane with "one foot on the land, one foot in the waters, and an eye constantly raised to the sky." I do that primarily to emphasize his tripartite nature as a creature of land, sea, and sky, but his eye to the sky could easily be interpreted as "looking into the future" while firmly "grounded in the present and past", if one wished to make a complicated explanation about it all (and this is religion: all explanations are complicated).

I then noticed that I had three functions with three cranes, and I was interested to see what I could do with the rest of the Nine Virtues (having six left over).

I started thinking about the parts of the myth that get no air play in our Grove: Esus and the Bull, Tarvos. I wanted to include them, as well, and so I set about giving them their own attributes from the Nine Virtues.

I ended up choosing the ones I did because I see Esus as a sort of "caretaker" to the tree: pruning it instead of cutting it down. This takes moderation, perseverance, and wisdom. I primarily see the bull, Tarvos, as a sacrificial bull, and thus connected it with religious action (piety), the continuance of cycles (fertility) and the courage bulls are renowned for.

It ended up looking something like this:

Esus, Tarvos Trigaranus, and ADF's Nine Virtues
Trigaranus Hospitality
Integrity
Vision
Esus Moderation
Perseverance
Wisdom
Tarvos Fertility
Courage
Piety

It's interesting to me to start, in earnest, taking the religion of the Gauls and really doing interpretive work off of it. It's also a bit scary, as I often don't quite know "how far is too far" yet, and the last thing I want to do is jump off the deep end and into fluff. The best I can do is avoid pretending that this stuff is "really the way it was" and say, "Well, if I were practicing Gaulish religion today, what on earth would I be doing?"

It's very interesting to re-imagine the cosmos. Very, very interesting.
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Current Mood: creative
Current Music: "Rancho Deluxe", -JB

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June 8th, 2007


10:54 am - Wondering Why We Ever Go Home: Greece, 2007
Journal Entry 9

04/11/07
11:4 AM
Perachora
Above the Temple of Hera Akiaia

In the shadow of the cliffs where Medea killed Jason's children, I sit in a sheltered cave, the Bay of Corinth sounds below me, with winds rushing across the rock face, hearing haunting moans. The waves break on the shore down the cliff face, near the Temple of Hera.

Delphi is apparently directly across from us, but the day's haze has made it hard to see. This cave I'm in is away from the sun and the wind, but is plesantly fresh from the sea air and the noise of the waves.

Quiet, relaxing, and full of amazing things. . . I could sit for a long time here, watching the sun dance over the waves, listening to the sea and the winds.

But there are temples to see.


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The cave above Perachora | View down to the water



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a seaside [info]mazisexton | The Temple of Hera, the water

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Current Mood: [mood icon] flirty
Current Music: "Migration", -JB

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March 12th, 2007


08:15 am - Thermopylae, the Delphic Oracle, and Other Tidbits
Because of the popularity of the movie 300 and the fact that I've now seen it twice and been amused by how Frank Miller represented the history (and, admittedly, appreciated the revalorizing of the myth of Thermopylae), I figured that I would provide the three Delphic oracles that particularly focus on the situation at the Hot Gates. (I just happen to have the collected Oracles on my desk):
"People of Sparta, either your city is destroyed by the Persians or it is not, and Lakedaimon will mourn a dead king of the Haraklid line. For the might of bulls and lions will not stay the enemy in battle; he has Zeus' might. And I say that he will not stop until he has destroyed one of these two." -Q152, Oracle of Delphi to the Spartans, regarding the Persian invasion (481/480 BC) [Herodotus, 7.220.3-4]

"Do not stay; fly to the ends of the earth, leaving your houses and city. For the whole body is unsound; nothing is left. Fire and war destroy it. Many fortresses will be destroyed, not yours alone. Many temples will burn, and blood drips upon their roofs, presaging inevitable evil. Leave the adyton and be ready for woes." -Q146, Oracle of Delphi to the Athenians, regarding the Persian invasion of the Hellas (481/480 BC)

"Pallas cannot appease Zeus with her many prayers. But I shall tell you this immovable decree: all Attica will be taken, but Zeus grants Athena a wooden wall that shall alone be untaken and will help you and your children. Do not await the onset of cavalry and infantry from the continent at your ease, but turn about and leave. You will face them sometime again. O divine Salamis, you will lose many children of men either at sowing time or at harvest." -Q147, Oracle of Delphi to the Athenians, regarding Oracle Q146 (481/480 BC)¹
Other items of possible interest, regarding the battle itself:

Quotes and anecdotes; no spoilers but a bit of history )

¹ - Source: Fonternrose, Joseph. The Delphic Oracle: Its responses and Operations With a Catalogue of Responses. University of California Press. 1981
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Current Music: "Nautical Wheelers", -JB

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February 26th, 2007


10:36 am - Usas, Writing and Working
Yesterday, I sat at my computer. I'd gone to bed at gods-know-what hour after suffering through a major headache on Saturday, and woken up with suddenly nearly an enitre day to do two things:
  • Practice my ASL
  • Work on my book
The first thing I did was type up my ASL glossing for the test [info]tesinth was going to help me record.

The second thing was sit down and move my book another step toward publication.

As I was writing a passage for the book, working on the "meat" of the book, which is chapter 6, "Deepening Your Practice," I found myself writing about sunrise rituals. I remembered the first time I had seen the sun rise, back when I was almost 19 years old, and thought about the effect it had on me.

Then I thought about my most recent actions regarding the sunrise, I realized that I had experienced the expanding days with a particular joy: Soon, I would be able to hold sunrise and sunset rituals again. Just today, it seems, the dawn comes at a time when I can rise before her, prepare the sacrifices, do my ritual, and still make it to work on time. I have truly missed this, and tomorrow morning I will re-start my dawn/sunset rituals.

I found myself, entirely to my surprise, suddenly writing about Usas, dancing on the rim of the world. She is the last of all dawns that came before her, and the first of all dawns that will come after her. She is that beautiful maiden whose bosom, rising from the waters of her bath, drenches the sky in the hues of morning. She opens the gates of heaven, the ways for Surya, the sun. She is greeted by those who make generous sacrifices and ignored by those who do not. It is almost as if the sacrifice can afford you a glimpse of her beauty, and it will forever affect you.

It strikes me as odd, that Usas and Ratri, so tied to perfect order, should call so strongly to me. Usas holds my heart, but there is a love for Ratri, too, and her prayers come at sunset. My facination with Usas might come from my stint as Surya at Walking With Fire in 2005, but it's hard to say. I suspect that it has more to do with the fact that I have done these dawn rituals, that I've seen Usas first hand, and every morning I fell in love with her again.

I agree with MacDonell, that there truly is no other figure in literature nor myth who is as charming or described with more deep love and emotion as Usas. I smile when I see the dawn, that knowing smile a lover gives to his beloved. I know how the poets felt when they saw her, and I know what they thought when they thought of her. I don't feel as if I can speak and do justice to her, and the things I write are never as beautiful as she.

Praised through my prayer are you who should be lauded. You have increased our wealth, Usas who loves us.
Goddesses, may we win, by your good favour, wealth to be told by hundreds and thousands.

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Current Mood: [mood icon] rejuvenated
Current Music: "Please Take Your Drunken 15 Year-old Girlfriend Home", -JB

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September 21st, 2006


08:43 am - A Hittite rite?
For those who couldn't tell from the last post, I'm working on a Hittite ritual in ADF format. It's a good exercise and a lot of fun, actually, and well worth the effort.

I mean, the tradition is obviously so rich (even if a bit threadbare in places). It's a shame we don't use it as much as we could. (Of course, we often pretend we're using Vedic sources when we're actually using Hindu ones, but that's another topic entirely.)

So far, I have a world tree, a book on Hittite prayers on the way, a couple of god names, a sigil (!!!) for the Storm God of Mursili III (which you'll see as soon as I manage to scan it in), a myth about Fire and a bit of interesting imagery about the sea, a funeral ritual to work from, a ritual against curses, the names of festivals and lists of supplies needed for each, a Hittite glossary, a book on Hittite myth, and a book about a Hittite funeral ritual on the way.

In all, I think this is doable.

This is the sort of thing that truly excites me in life. There is, simply put, nothing that compares to it.
Current Location: Southeast of Disorder
Current Mood: [mood icon] excited
Current Music: "Trying to Reason with Hurricane Season", -JB
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September 20th, 2006


03:08 pm - The Hittite World Tree
(KUB 43.62 ii 1-11, iii 2'-12'):
"The snake holds its base, while the bee holds it in the middle.

Above on its branches the eagle has perched, while below the snake has encircled its base, and in the middle the bee has turned around it.

Gulzanzipa [the fate goddess] pulls the [...] of the Storm-God. And behind him and her they dig up clay."
Look familiar to anyone else?

:)
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Current Music: "Son of a Son of a Sailor", - JB
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February 9th, 2006


12:34 pm - Esus=Jesus=Caesar=WTFOMGLOL!!!1111!
So, apparently Jesus was actually Julius Caesar, Esus is Jesus is Caesar, the Jesus myth has nothing to do with the Jews (or even the Middle East) and I'm the insane one.

(Yes, I am fully aware that this entry seems to be an amusing flip-flop from my previous entry. Maybe I meant it that way? I dunno. The implication that I think about anything is perhaps thinking too much on my thinking.)

Over the past three weeks or more, I've been engaged in a discussion (rather, a series of discussions) about how Esus is related to Jesus. It is, on the one hand, entertaining. And honestly, I'm willing to look at it objectively. But I admit that I think it's bunk right now. But I'm hoping that I'm at least looking at each piece carefully before holding up the big "REJECTED" sign.

The central argument comes from Francesco Carotta's new book, Jesus Was Caesar: On the Julian Origin of Christianity: An Investigative Report. I've had some very light dealings back and forth with Carotta himself (who runs a forum on his website), though they haven't been very in depth. He did, though, personally moderate me and reject a posting for suggesting that the theory that Jesus was of European origin, not of Semitic origin, worried me and made me afraid that the theory was potentially anti-Semitic. I feel special.

The book is, at present, too expensive for me to purchase, but I understand that it's being used by at least one history professor as an example of "bad" history, which amuses me a lot. If you ever feel like getting me an expensive gag gift, though, that's the thing to get.

Anyway, the point of the whole thing is that I have taken the time to re-think and re-work some of the information I have on Esus and Tarvos Trigaranus. It's also given me the kick to put up a page responding to some of the arguments I've received (over and over again, I might add) about Jesus being Esus and possibly Caesar. And now I've got the start of a page on the Nautes Pillar up, and I'll have more on that page in the near future.

Yeah, just what I needed: a new project in the middle of my current heavy workload. But this is one that is very valid to me. And it's definitely time that I started looking again at those Esus pages on my website. They hadn't been updated in nearly two years when I looked at them last, and one of the discussions I had showed me that I didn't really agree with everything. So things are expanded, and on their way toward becoming more expanded. It feels good to be back to this line of discussion and thought again. I missed it.
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Current Music: "Up On the Housetop", -JB

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December 5th, 2005


08:16 am - A bit of morning poetry, Sumerian style
Where, oh where is the North Wind?

Gilgamesh, tablet 9 )
Current Mood: awake
Current Music: "My Lovely Lady", -JB

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April 27th, 2005


03:45 pm - Cranes in Ireland were not so nice. . .
I caught this today, and just asked if I could copy the translation:

Athirne the Unsociable

I'm consistently unconvinced that these cranes have anything to do with Esus, but it never hurts to look at them from time to time. Here's hoping he says "yes" so I can put it on my website!

When we first named the Grove "Three Cranes", Gwynne Green asked me if I knew anything about cranes at all, indicating that it was a poor choice. I'd never heard this particular legend, but upon reading it, it doesn't seem to have any actual connection at all (and it certainly doesn't read the way she described it).

(btw, [info]tlachtga, do you have any theories on that? I'd be very interested in your professional opinion.)
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Current Music: "Coconut Telegraph", -JB

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April 27th, 2004


09:29 am - Monday ritual
So today, I'm back to my Monday ritual (i.e. writing a paper for my religious studies class).

What, it's not Monday? How dare you! Of course it is!

But here's the interesting thing: I think I just found some compelling evidence that Robert Anton Wilson's theories can be applied to the Aztecs, in particular the conquest of Tenochtitlan and the internalization of myth. . .

Woah. I'm getting chills about how cool this idea is.

Sorry. More later.
Current Mood: [mood icon] shocked
Current Music: "Railroad Lady", -JB

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April 21st, 2004


09:26 am - Awake and alive, and plotting the downfall of the world as we know it . . .
*grins* Well, I'm finishing up a paper for class. I had to skip yesterday because I wasn't comfortable going to class and trying to think, so I just stayed in my office and worked (mind-numbing and all that).

But now, I have to write about myth and such. At this point, I don't really want to, but I told the prof it was done yesterday and that I'd turn it in today, so I have to now. . . Time to make good on that promise. . .
Current Mood: [mood icon] annoyed
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November 6th, 2003


01:16 pm - Divination 1
So soon I'll be off to class. I have to make a donation today to the "Keep Mike's Checking Account Full" fund. It's a constant battle, but it's a very good cause.

I did some research last night on the ADF Study Program (getting ready to update my webpage shortly, so getting more content) last night. Well, being at work and needing information, I did searches online for info on the Tarbh Feis, looking particularly for source material that I could base an answer off of.

Well, I got loads of interesting answers.

So I wrote my little 100-word essay on this topic. Then I realized: I just did all this research on the internet.

So I went home, picked up the Mabinogi, and started reading The Dream of Rhonabwy to see if the info I got from the 'Net was correct. Well, there were some obvious errors invovled, and some really nit-picky ones that I would have been aghast to see had this been my area of expertise.

Some of the stupid little mistakes were these:

The site I grabbed this from described the woman as "toothless". There was no reference in the story to her being toothless. She's also referred to as a hag (never as a "woman"), which is important because it implys her age as well.

They call the hall "strange". The story calls it "dark".

I'm aware that those are really nit-picky, but if I hold other people to that standard of scholarship, I need to do the same to myself.

I brought in Davidson's Myths and Symbols of Pagan Europe: Early Scandinavian and Celtic Religions because Rees and Rees didn't mention the bull feast I needed to talk about. So I can finish writing this thing with the Davidson book, rather than with the Internet, which is just a bad idea.

There's a lot more in that little essay I wrote last night that I need to prove to myself is true before I can submit it.

Btw, you can find my answer to Divination 1, question 1 on [info]monika_lessons. (The essay referred to above is for question 2.) Should I post my answer to question 2 here?

Off to class!
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Current Music: "Someday I Will", -JB

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