wow. ohio and california, eh? Who'd have thunk. well . . . I would, but only because I'm IN adf. Sometimes. When i remember to be.

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Yes, California has 90, Ohio has 83. Or did on 2-2-05. Numbers change weekly, though.

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wow, kick ass!

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And darn fun to make, too!

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well, I'd imagine it would screw california.

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Very cool!

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Now here's a challenge for ya--can you make the blue & red dots link to the homepages of the groves?

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Sure can. :) I suspect that that would be a very cluttered graphics tag, though.

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I don't think firefox likes your maps, as it doesn't display them. Not even a broken link thing either... *pout*

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That's odd; I'm using firefox, and I can see them.

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ADF needs more members outside of America.... ;P

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I agree. Let's run off to Bora Bora and found us a pretty little protogrove on the beach!

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What, there's no groves in seattle, I find that odd.

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There was back in 2002, but it's gone now, apparently.

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on the second map, how about using different colors rather than different shades of one color? i'm finding it difficult to distinguish between the 2nd and 3rd darkest shades of brown when looking from the map to the key. (though the monochromatic scheme is nice.)

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I thought about that, but it's pleasing to the eye as is: I have a horrid sense of how to choose colour. Just look at the Regions Map that I did two years ago. I mean, I thought it was a good idea at the time, but it soooooo wasn't.

There is a reason that my artisitc skills are generally better left unused.

Btw, Schmendrick should expect a box shortly. I'll probably send it tomorrow when I go to lunch.

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Wow, the middle part of the US is lacking in ADF groves. What's the difference between a grove and a proto-grove?

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Yeah. It's also kinda lacking members, to some extent.

A Protogrove is the beginning of a Grove. It only takes one ADF member to start one, and they have to become a Grove in under 3 years (unless there are circumstances that prevent that). Protogroves don't have to hold open rituals, but they do need to at least provide 8 open to the public "events".

A Grove is at least three ADF members who decide that they want to be a Grove. There are some requirements, like holding 8 open to the public rituals per year, doing community service, and such things.

There's also a third type of Grove, that I didn't designate on that map: the Fully Chartered Grove (as opposed to Provisionally Chartered Grove). These Groves have had 9 members for 2 full years, have a clergyperson among them, and have all the other requisite items for a Provisional Charter.

A more technical and verbose explaination can be found on the member's side of the ADF site, here:

http://www.adf.org/members/groves/starting/definitions.html

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just imagine it....a little blue dot in the center of arkansas.
one day my freind!

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I thought of you as I looked at that and said, "Damn, we could use a PG there!"

Now I'm holding you to that!

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Wow, you did it! Thanks!!!

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Y'all need to lurn some geografy!

Oshawa, Ontario is on the north short of Lake Ontario, not Lake Erie...

ttyl
RD for Canada

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Heh. I'm doing my best, given that my method of locating all the Groves was putting the zip code into Yahoo! Maps and then judging from there where they ought to sit on the map I had. :) I'll re-compare and see what I can find. Right outside Toronto, right?

Truly, this whole exercise has been a learning experience in foreign geography. :)

Actually, part of the reason that I wanted to update these maps is because they actually really show what ADF's presence looks like internationally. I have a few world maps and some individual country maps as well. See 'em all here:

http://www.chronarchy.com/misc/adf-maps.html

(Just finished that last night.

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