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May 25th, 2005


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02:13 pm - Warning: Evolution might be involved!
I would approve of putting evolution warning stickers on text books if they looked like this:



Maybe it's time to make such stickers and distribute them to certain school boards. Any takers?
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 06:30 pm (UTC)
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Gravity is a theory, not a fact, so why don't all these anti-evolution people go jump off a tall building? I mean, it's not a fact, so they might just fly.
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From:chronarchy
Date:May 25th, 2005 06:32 pm (UTC)
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Yes. I'm amused by that. It's a great misuse of the word "theory". In science, a theory is difference than something that works "in theory" but not "in practice".

And I agree that they should jump off buildings. It'll give them a good lesson in what kind of punch a theory can actually punch.
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From:chronarchy
Date:May 25th, 2005 06:35 pm (UTC)
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"what kind of punch a theory can actually punch."

I'm obviously overly ready for Wellspring.

"what kind of punch a theory can actually pack."
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 06:40 pm (UTC)
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They totally don't understand what science asserts, let alone what the scientific method is. It's one gigantic equivocation between the technical sense of "theory" and the popular sense of "theory", as you pointed out; but could they understand that equivocation is a logical fallacy? Probably not ... and that's kind of sad, really, but I can't feel much, if any, pity for them when they try to enforce their ignorant dogmatism on other people.
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 06:47 pm (UTC)
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I'm a firm believer that logic should be taught when we start teaching algebra. Honestly, if they don't know logic, or are willing to reject even uncontroversial things like the basic rules of introduction for the logical operators, then there's absolutely no point in attempting to debate them.
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From:tosk
Date:May 25th, 2005 07:12 pm (UTC)
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I am of the opinion that logic and thinking for oneself should be taught in Kindergarten... the letters and numbers bit can wait for first grade.

Well... actually, I'm in favor of parents teaching their children to think for themselves and to use logic, but one can't often get blood from turnips, at least not without Guantanamo-level torture.
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 07:38 pm (UTC)
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I've been (half) jokingly talking about teaching my son logic as soon as he can grasp the concepts ... then turning him loose on the world.
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From:romandruid
Date:May 25th, 2005 07:57 pm (UTC)
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I'd like to sit in on that class. :) Seriously, I'm in my 40s with a MA in education, and I struggled through math classes in HS and college. Never had a course in logic, and I really wish I could get one now. Especially since I'm supposed to start doing trainings for Excel, and I'm having to remediate myself on the terminology of logic. Ack...
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 08:02 pm (UTC)
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I have to warn you, though, I'm decidedly not a classical logician; not only do I deny the principle of the excluded middle, but I deny the principle of non-contradiction (since it leads to the absurd consequences of non-relevant logics). I'm completely out in left-field according to most logicians.
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From:romandruid
Date:May 25th, 2005 08:38 pm (UTC)
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Well, you must be good... you've lost me already. :(
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 07:36 pm (UTC)

Re: You prolly already know this...

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I also think that informal logic should be taught around the same time, most likely in an English class, or something similar.
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From:unnamed525
Date:May 25th, 2005 07:43 pm (UTC)

Re: You prolly already know this...

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I don't see how critical thinking doesn't belong in any academic subject. If they're not going to make it an explicit course, maybe we can talk the liberal literature-lovers into sneaking it in between the officially-required syllabus.

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