October 14th, 2005
|07:53 am - Gay porn and farm animals: The Eturscans know how to party!|
[While graphic, I promise the photos aren't actually offensive. Unless you get offended by ancient artworks. I promise the photos won't turn you gay.]
Brian and I were at the University of Richmond in 2002, watching a presentation on Etruscan art. Larissa Belfonte was showing slides of various vase paintings, and was talking about how the Etruscans were prudes. "They almost always drew people covered up, from head to toe, and were cautious about showing skin."
And that's when this picture appeared on the projection screen behind her.
Spectators at games,
from the Tomb of the Bigas.
Brian and I looked at each other and laughed.
To this day, I don't really understand her comment on the Etruscans being prudes. Granted, she didn't actually *say* that they were prudes, but she certainly implied it.
Personally, I'm very appreciative of the work done on these tomb walls. The Etruscans spent a lot of time on death and on their ancestors; so much time, in fact, that we thought they were basically a death cult until we realized that it was far more likely that we just hadn't found the stuff that the living dealt with.
But I find the paintings beautiful.
Detail of erotic symplegma and bull,
from the Tomb of the Bulls.
While personally, I'm not generally one for crazy erotic art, these particular paintings stand out in my mind. They're worth something, and they convey something. What that is, to me, is ineffible. Such things need to be seen.
I don't talk a lot about the Etruscans, or about my personal connection with them. In general, this is because I know it's remarkably boring to the majority of people around me, most of whom are wrapped up in Indo-European cultures and deities, and might not even understand why I work with this strange set of gods and goddesses that bear little to no relation to my usual ones.
I'm not sure I understand it.
I spend a lot of time, though, reading up on the Etruscans and their deities. I've learned a bit of liver divination; though I've never tried it, I find a desire to give it a shot on a real goat. I watch thunderstorms and hear Uni's voice on the winds, and watch Tinia trace out messages in the sky with bolts of lightning. I find devotion to Menrva within my heart.
These are things I rarely speak of. It's personal, private devotion, and almost no one knows of it. It is locked away inside me. It does not beg to come out, or to be shown. It is mystery, and the rituals I have devised and done have, until now, been for me alone.
The Etruscans have profoundly affected me. They have brought out a kind of priest that I wasn't sure existed: the priest who deals only with the deities.
Current Mood: amused
Current Music: "Johnny B. Goode", -JB
But WWF is an "Eastern IE Conference". They're not IE.
Besides, I'm trying to avoid mixing my ADF stuff with non-IE cultures. There's enough of that in ADF without me adding to it.
Actually, it is no longer Eastern IE and it clearly says so (it does not have enough of a draw because we do not bow to the Hindus). :p And I do believe Greece specifically says that topic is welcome. And we both know I am not IE but whatever you want babe. :)
Maybe, then, not this time around, but perhaps at Greece. I'll think about it.
I could create an Etruscan-inspired ritual for WWF in the far future, I imagine.
Well, duh, you are doing vampires this year!
A WWF ritual would be good. m3ch
says he is very interested in just chatting with you about it.
In that case, we'll have to see what we can get together. I'm suddenly wondering how much a goat costs.
|Date:||October 14th, 2005 02:34 pm (UTC)|| |
Silly me. I thought that Etruscan was IE, but looking into it, it seems that it's just influenced by IE, but is itself something else.
Refresh my history: where did Latin come from and when/how did it settle in Rome?
Etruscan pre-dates Latin, actually. And heavily influenced it in terms of ritual lanugage, I understand.
Latin dates, so far as we can tell, to about the sixth century BC, but very, very few inscriptions survive before the third century BC.
Latin arrives with the Italic-speaking tribes
, which eventually gained dominance in the area.
|Date:||October 14th, 2005 04:37 pm (UTC)|| |
I've always enjoyed speaking in Italics...
I don't see a reason why the Etruscans would be non IE... but maybe I'm missing something here