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December 16th, 2005


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09:19 am - Sudden question
I use a Magic 8 Ball quite often to make decisions. Sometimes, I even quote it.

If I said I used a Magick 8 Ball, would I be more, or less fluffy? Or would I stay the same?
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From:las
Date:December 16th, 2005 02:25 pm (UTC)
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Fluffiness would increase 2%. Unless it was a homemade Magick Octoball, in which case the coolness factor would rise exponentially.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 02:33 pm (UTC)
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Alas, it is not homemade, nor is a Magick Octoball.

Honestly, it's a tough question. I mean, on the one hand, using the Ball itself is an action rife with fluffiness. Adding the "k" to the end of "Magic" might tip the balance. It could, possibly, give the Ball some substance, as it would then be divorced from "stage magic and slight-of-hand," as Aliester Crowley intended the "k" to designate. But then, the "k" speaks to an unbearable fluffiness that Crowley never dreamed of, where "magick" affects no actual change, but only change within the "magickian".

What a quandary. . .
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From:unnamed525
Date:December 16th, 2005 02:41 pm (UTC)
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What makes it any worse than flipping a coin?
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 02:45 pm (UTC)
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Actually, flipping a coin is probably the single most terrifying divination I've ever done. Imagine, asking, "Have our sacrifices been accepted?" and logicially knowing that there's a 50/50 chance (if the coin is not influenced by the divine) that you're going to get a negative answer. It's a real test of faith to flip that coin, sometimes.

So far, we haven't been told that they were rejected. . . We're currently running on a pretty good streak of getting a positive reading from coins, when we've done it, and the streak is far better than 50/50. . .
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 02:46 pm (UTC)
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Actually, when I asked if adding the "k" would make me fluffier, the Magic 8 Ball responded:

"You may rely on it"

I love this thing. :)
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:27 pm (UTC)
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*snickers*
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:20 pm (UTC)
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I'm more irrelevant than anyone you ever met, man. So long as we're all clear on that, I think we'll all get along fine :)
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From:zylch
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:15 pm (UTC)
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Your actual fluffiness would not change, but my perception of your fluffiness would definitely rise.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:22 pm (UTC)
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*nods* That might be the answer closest to "correct" yet :)
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From:edelweiss68
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:18 pm (UTC)
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I was thinking a Jimmy Buffett Magic 8-Ball would be too cool:

"Need two more boat drinks." "Come Monday, it'll be all right." "Get drunk and screw."

Makes for some interesting replies to those deep questions. ;)
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:23 pm (UTC)
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I now have a mission in life. I will need to put one on my website.
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From:airthesea
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:20 pm (UTC)
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You stay the same when you do it alone. However if others see you or you something else silly, say posting about it on lj; an explanation keeps the fluff from forming.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:25 pm (UTC)
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The privacy of your own room keeps you mysterious. It's when you leave the curtains open that people really get an eyefull. . .
From:dansrobe
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:29 pm (UTC)
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Let me check the definition of 'fluffy'.

"Fluffy Bunny" (Fluff bunny, Fluffy) (definition from about.com)

In Wiccan and Neopagan circles, "Fluffbunny" or "fluffy bunny" is a catch-all derogatory term describing pagans who are theologically inexperienced, who are very credulous or gullible, or who exhibit a "why can't we all get along" attitude.

Hm, I suppose then if you belive that a toy can be affected by a magical working, that could be perceived as gullible, so you might be a fluff bunny.

Or if you are more interested in results then how people define you, then you might be a chaos magician. Or a Buddhist. Or a Dark Bunny. Or a Fluff Choas Ninja. Ask enough people and you'll get any label you want.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 03:32 pm (UTC)
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It interests me that my Magic 8 Ball has been, without fail, my most reliable form of divination.

It has never been wrong. This does not bode well for certain friends (I blame my friend Brian for that), but all in all, it hasn't steered me wrong yet.

If only it was capable of giving me lotto numbers.
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From:raydon_12
Date:December 16th, 2005 04:52 pm (UTC)
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HHmmm, first reaction was "dude, thats fluffier than the dust bunny colony under my bed". Then irrational reason stepped in. Is this any more random than reading the patterns of the flight of a flock of birds? Not really. Its sure as hell cleaner than reading sheep entrails. Every bit as controlled as tarot.

What it really comes down to is: if it works for you, go with it. If we needed the concensus of the masses for every decision in our lives we'd never get anything done, you know, like the government!
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
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Damn government, always trying to please the masses.

Or, at least the people who gave them the most money :)

It's funny, though. I'd trust the 8 Ball before I took a Tarot reading seriously. Strange.
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From:duriyah
Date:December 16th, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC)
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I could never think of you as fluffy.

It would, however, raise your quirkiness level (a good thing), and possibly your coolness level.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)
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Every so often, I think of myself as fluffy. It's good to play with terms, you know. :)
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From:singingwren
Date:December 16th, 2005 05:21 pm (UTC)
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Well, that depends.

Is using Weifei as a divination tool fluffy?
What about the objects you find in the gutter?
Ever done divination with a Chem book?

I'm sure it could be plenty more bizzarre. Not that I would know, seeing as I of COURSE have never tried such things, but I creatively imagine so. I also imagine that fluffiness really has to do with the mindframe and intention and not the action, so help me gods.

For example, my housemates used dice divination constantly during the week of finals -- Weifei had gotten an amusing kit for Ashley and we consulted it frequently about if we should study. I'd say that was pretty fluffy, especially considering that I seemed to be the only person capable of finding the dice configuration in the handbook to begin with! We did it carelessly as a joke and asked questions like, "Will I fail my Bio exam?"... to which we would bitch or demand a re-roll whenever we got answers like, "Yes, but you deserve it." That was not "real" divination, if you will, becuase we weren't actually trying to figure anything out, nor did we hope for guidance, insight, etc, etc, etc. We were just having kicks.

The only thing is, although it was a lot more elaborate, the whole dice-corresponding-to-an-answer thing reminds me frightfully a lot of (AD&D aside) the PGM Homeric... and it utterly breaks my heart to think that delighful book could be fluffy. ;(
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From:singingwren
Date:December 16th, 2005 05:22 pm (UTC)
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the key factor of belief and will -- if they aren't in whatever you are doing, you might as well not do it in the first place.

If they ARE, then damn the man who calls them fluffy...

I really miss the fortune cookies at my house right now. ;(
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From:kallisti
Date:December 16th, 2005 07:08 pm (UTC)
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I have a more up to date Magick 8 Ball that I use all the time...it's a "Bart Simpson" Magick 8 Ball, and has responses like "Right on, Dude!", "Oh, yeah!, "D'OH!", "Whoo-Hoo!", etc.

Maybe Magick 8 Balls are the unoffical Official Erisian Divination Techique?

ttyl
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 07:22 pm (UTC)
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A person could make a killing selling Discordian 8 Balls. Well, they'd probably do better with Discordian 23 Balls.
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From:rfunk
Date:December 16th, 2005 08:09 pm (UTC)

Magic 8-Ball

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Funny, I was just discussing that form of divination recently, after a workshop covering various other forms.

As I mentioned then, the best part is that it admits when it has no idea, unlike many divination tools.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 09:29 pm (UTC)

Re: Magic 8-Ball

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I dunno. I've had to admit that in the past, myself, when using crazy things like Tarot cards and runes and other such things.
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From:nontacitare
Date:December 16th, 2005 08:13 pm (UTC)
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It would make you more fluffy. "Serious" Pagans would never use a "toy" which cannot be documented back to ancient times. The K, I believe, would increase the fluffy factor.

Now, as a fluffy bunny myself, I see no reason that a Magic 8 Ball couldn't be as accurate as any other form of divination. I am a firm believer in the fluffy philosophy of "If it harms none and works for you, go for it."

Embrace your inner fluffy bunny.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 16th, 2005 08:50 pm (UTC)
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The 8 Ball is certainly better than Tarot. Tarot's been wrong so many times I can't count them anymore. The Magic 8 Ball? 100% success rate.

We Chaotes are already as fluffy as they come, by most definitions. We're just scarier than the run-of-the-mill fluff, because we have an emphasis on results, not feeling good :)

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