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December 22nd, 2005


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11:27 am - Fuck Firefox, I'm going back to a reliable browser
I'm giving up on Firefox. It just deleted all my bookmarks, won't let me re-import them, and won't let me bookmark anything.

So, fuck the fox.

I'll see it in hell.

Back to my far more reliable Mozilla Firebird v. 0.7. It never gave me *any* problems.

Good thing I didn't delete it. . . or worse: install over it.

*edit: Apparently, Firefox doesn't come with an uninstaller. . . And the regular "add-remove programs" in Windows doesn't uninstall it. My opinion of Firefox just hit rock bottom.

If I ever said anything good about Firefox, I take it back. All of it.
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From:shizukagozen
Date:December 22nd, 2005 04:46 pm (UTC)
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What fucking foul language you dirty boy.
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 22nd, 2005 04:50 pm (UTC)
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Maybe, but I think it's good reason, in this case. I'm just fortunate that I had backups of *everything*
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From:triskele
Date:December 22nd, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC)
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wow, I've never had a problem. Love it.
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From:unnamed525
Date:December 22nd, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)
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I've never had any problems with it either.
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From:rfunk
Date:December 22nd, 2005 05:22 pm (UTC)

Firefox

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Which version were you using?
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From:unnamed525
Date:December 22nd, 2005 05:35 pm (UTC)

Re: Firefox

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Yes, I'm thinking he might need to update to the latest version.
From:bloodlikerain
Date:December 22nd, 2005 06:38 pm (UTC)

YES

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I hate the Fox, and everyone is always telling me how good it is.


FUCK THE FOX
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 22nd, 2005 06:52 pm (UTC)

Re: YES

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I wouldn't recommend anyone install it, personally. One of the other Mozilla browsers, maybe. But not Firefox.
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From:rfunk
Date:December 22nd, 2005 07:36 pm (UTC)

Google results...

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From:chronarchy
Date:December 22nd, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Google results...

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Nope. I have nothing like that installed outside the normal Windows utilities, and I haven't run them in 4 or 5 weeks.

I already tried the solutions presented in the first article (both of which are intuitive solutions, I think), and I'm highly amused by the tone of the last post ("Your fault, you suck, get thee behind me, dude"), but find it remarkably unhelpful, especially since it generally re-hashes the first link.

The key problem, of course, was that neither replacing the file nor re-importing the file worked. Indeed, clicking on the "import" command in the "manage bookmarks" screen did less than nothing. . . it would alternatively take no action, and sometimes (I imagine for the hell of it) freeze my system.

As far as running multiple instances, I also took the regular percaution of restarting and checking my task manager and those fun things.

I'm simply not using Firefox again, at least not until v. 2 comes out, at which point I may consider it. Running Firebird has some problems, obviously, but none like what I ran into with the new version.
From:ex_acousticd43
Date:December 22nd, 2005 09:01 pm (UTC)
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It did that to me once too. It had asked me about switching to a different user or something, and they were all gone. And then I couldn't get them back. I still prefer it though. If it just wouldn't delete my bookmarks.
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From:kallisti
Date:December 22nd, 2005 10:38 pm (UTC)
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I've been using Firefox 1.07, and was very happy with it...so when 1.5 came out, I gave it a try, and many things, including the multi-media integration package that I use under Linux wouldn't work with it...so I re-installed 1.07.

ttyl
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From:ferrelux
Date:December 22nd, 2005 11:58 pm (UTC)

Get a Mac...!

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Um, okay. I'm just being a provocateur here, and don't really mean it.

While the Fox has been pretty stable here on my Powerbook, I've only really got Safari (gack!) to compare it to. All standard disclaimers apply.

Get a Sparcstation! (and no, *that* suggestion's not being incendiary -- i'm serious.)

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From:chronarchy
Date:December 23rd, 2005 02:11 am (UTC)

Re: Get a Mac...!

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Actually, Macs are quite attractive to me at the moment. :)

And I do have some SPARC software lying around. . .
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From:chronarchy
Date:December 23rd, 2005 02:43 pm (UTC)
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I dunno why I was unable to find it. My old Firebird has an uninstaller, but I searched through every file in the Firefox directory looking for the uninstaller there. It just never turned up.

And I'm not sure why the add/remove didn't fully clean it out. Just one of those weird things.
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From:chirael
Date:December 24th, 2005 07:31 am (UTC)
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I had the same thing happen to me a few versions ago. Fortunately I had an old copy of bookmarks.html around.

My solution was kinda crazy, I started using del.icio.us (which was recently bought by Yahoo! btw) to store my bookmarks instead.

I know that's not exactly a ringing endorsement of Firefox, but while I did really like my "bookmark hierarchy", ontologies are overrated and I found that no matter which browser I used, after I reached a certain minimum # of bookmarks it just became unusable.

I know it sounds crazy, but believe it or not, the flat "tag" based organization method actually seems to work better so far than all those nested Firefox (or even IE) bookmarks ever did. And I get the added benefit that I can access and add/edit the bookmarks from anywhere.

Plus, I can use my tags as a basis to find other people's bookmarks, which is a neat way to delve into a topic of interest. For example, you can view all del.icio.us users' bookmarks for cthulhu, eris, or discordia.

Anyway, it's pretty disappointing that a bug like this (erasure of bookmarks) would still exist. That is the kind of thing that seriously erodes one's confidence in a product. And I wrote as much in the bug report I filed on it a year or two ago (wish I could find it now).

However, on the whole it still kicks the ass of the competition, at least IE (I can't speak to Opera or Safari, though AFAIK Opera is still payware to avoid annoying ads, and Safari is Mac only). I think the old Mozilla browser (combined e-mail, browser, etc.) still exists too, though it might be under a different name.

It's got its challenges, certainly, but it's so far ahead of the competition that I'll find ways around its few flaws just to have all the other great features it has, not to mention the inherent "fight the power" aspect of the whole thing ("take back the web" and all that :)

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