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Ár nDraíocht Féin
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January 11th, 2010

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04:52 pm - A wonderful article
It's true that I was raised in a conservative environment, and that I am generally a conservative person, politically. This bugs some people, but because I consistently vote my conscience (generally derided by both my more conservative and more liberal friends as "playing for the other team," whatever that means), most people understand that I take my time to understand issues, don't vote along party lines in general (unless I feel a strong need to), and see things from a couple of different angles.

And today, thanks to peaceful_fox, I have been privileged to see that maybe I'm not part of such a dying breed of conservatives as I once thought: there are those who have strong values but think for themselves. It turns out that there is at least one who thinks very similarly to the way I do:

The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage: Why same-sex marriage is an American value

Sure the title is a bit sensationalist, but it's one of the best arguments I've ever read for the support of same-sex marriage, and it hits the conservative nail on the head.

I had known about Olson's involvement in the case for a while, but I hadn't seen anything he'd penned himself about why he was supporting it. To read his words and he spoke about the cause he's defending in court very nearly brought a tear to my eye. . . and I have a horrible time producing tears.

It was truly refreshing to read through this article: well-reasoned, passionate, and definitely persuasive to all but the most obstinate of people. Reading it, I feel a real faith in the process once again, as I did when I woke up to legalized same-sex marriage in Iowa of all places.

There's some hope on the horizon, I sometimes feel, for the conservatives left out in the cold by the last administration. . . I often hope that the horizon isn't too far off.
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Date:January 11th, 2010 10:03 pm (UTC)
I'm a tie dye hippy socialist radical (LOL!), but I realize when someone is talking sense and it doesn't matter what political party they support. :-) It's good to see sensible conservatives and moderates speak out. I hate reactionaries in any political party. I can respect someone who has a political agenda that's different than mine when they aren't letting fundamentalist religion hijack their political arguments.
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Date:January 11th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
Being conservative does not mean being close-hearted or close-minded. The words for both conservative and liberal have been pulled so far to the left and right that most of us in the middle shake our heads at it all. All I ask for is reasonable discussions about the issues and the expectation that everyone is entitled to thier opinion as long as they respect others.

You have always struck me as someone who really sits on things and thinks them through, but still true to your virtues and walking your truth. If more people did that we'd all be better off.

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Date:January 12th, 2010 02:43 pm (UTC)
OK, that is a good article, but where is the conservative in it?

It is certainly not socially conservative, not even a little bit, I expected an argument along the lines of personal choice and personal responsibility and getting one's nose out of other people's business but didn't see any of that. I didn't see any fiscal Conservative messages either, about Government staying out of business (and Marriage certainly is a business) or anything along those lines.

It is DEFINITELY not a Republican viewpoint, a party who has "Preserving Traditional Marriage" as one of 9 of the "values issues" in their latest platform message.

Date:January 12th, 2010 03:56 pm (UTC)
I read it as "Constitutionally Conservative" - he is preserving the basic idea of Freedom (of Religion, Pursuit of Happiness, etc.) - what this nation was built on. No one religion has the right to impose it's ideas on others - like the Puritans escaping the persecution of Catholic Europe (unfortunately, the Puritans were fond of persecuting each other for witchcraft/immorality, but we've grown beyond that hypocritical stage, perhaps...). The idea of all people being Created Equal - that we are equally entitled to live in a way that does not infringe on others' rights (and the article found that Gay/Lesbian marriage does not appear to infringe on the rights of Heterosexual marriage).
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Date:January 12th, 2010 07:41 pm (UTC)
See, it IS socially conservative, though. Because marriage is socially conservative. the whole idea of it is. Which is the point. that conservatives should vastly prefer gay marriage to gay people in relationships without the strong bond of marriage.

And they'd realize that if they were not scares of gay people. the majority of the rhetoric is based on fear. And no matter how you disguise that fear, it always comes down to "I don't like gay people so they don't deserve rights". If conservatives could get past their own homophobia, many more would agree with this man: marriage (no matter who is in it) is a conservative value. Always has been.

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